Too Long; Didn't Read
O’Reilly published a discussion Mark Burgess and I had on one of his trips through the Valley as a podcast last year. The audio is iffy, which is entirely my fault. I have zero experience recording for any purpose other than capturing notes from interviews for my own use later. I’ve referenced Mark’s work before in talks and presentations like this one at O'Reilly Velocity two years ago. He approaches systems as a physicist, looking at systems as phenomena, as things that happen.